The following have read or are following my blog.
1. Yna
2. Pau
3. Anlo
4. Marianne
5. Mikko
6. Ma'am Frances
7. Jai
And yes, it's depressing to find out that what you're really toiling on has only been noticed by seven people--and all of them are your friends. Anyway, at least most of them read my entries thoroughly and have given positive feedback, considerable comments or interesting questions.
If you've read my previous post, I'm running out of things to write about, and thanks to the responses from my readers, now I have something to write about--or rather to respond to. The following content in Verdana is from Mikko--a friend of mine who's a devout Catholic (but it seems to me he's a devout Christian).
1. Yna
2. Pau
3. Anlo
4. Marianne
5. Mikko
6. Ma'am Frances
7. Jai
And yes, it's depressing to find out that what you're really toiling on has only been noticed by seven people--and all of them are your friends. Anyway, at least most of them read my entries thoroughly and have given positive feedback, considerable comments or interesting questions.
If you've read my previous post, I'm running out of things to write about, and thanks to the responses from my readers, now I have something to write about--or rather to respond to. The following content in Verdana is from Mikko--a friend of mine who's a devout Catholic (but it seems to me he's a devout Christian).
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* COPYRIGHTED BY VIC BAUTISTA COPYRIGHTED BY VIC BAUTISTA COPYRIGHTED BY VIC BAUTISTA COPYRIGHTED BY VIC BAUTISTA COPYRIGHTED BY VIC BAUTISTA
** Again, COPYRIGHTED BY VIC BAUTISTA. As for Scylla and Charybdis, it's a fig of speech obtained from The Oddysey.
i always believed that God let us have free will that we may understand things in our own way. if God just wanted us to believe and do everything strictly according to what He wants, then what's the use of free will, just so he can see us burn for choosing the wrong choices?
That's one of the inconsistencies in Catholic doctrine--that free will is a gift, but followers must follow God's plan. Therefore, free will is a gift that must be returned.*
But then again, what's even more distressing is the thought that free will is more trouble than we think. For starters, it's the reason why people actually stray from God's path. One answer is that, since men are created in the likeness of God, and since God is free, so is man. But then again, God isn't really free either because since God is all good, he can't do bad things. If you follow that logic, then you can infer that God is not all good because he has done bad things, such as the case with Noah. Most people would argue that he's doing it for the better of man. Then again, he advocated meaningless slaughter in some books in the Old Testament. (It's likely that nobody knows about this because this info has been repressed.)
Let's go back to Genesis. So, Adam and Eve were made with free will. What if they weren't created with free will? The problem with not creating them without it is that they wouldn't be like God, but then again, I've already pointed out that there are holes regarding likeness and free wil. The problem with giving them free will is that they are prone to deterring from God's will. The case with Eden and free will is probably the first case of being stuck between Charybdis and Scylla--or in modern terms, a rock and a hard place.**
maybe its God's idea for a good laugh?
One version of Faust ponders on the possibility that humans are God's play things.
well, i dunno, i don't think so. i think the reason we have free will is so that we could believe and understand God in our own way, so that our connection to him is that much more personal and important.
There's a problem with having a personal God, especially if you're Catholic. Catholicism is a religion that asserts absolute views, and if things are absolute, there is little, if not none at all, room for relative understanding. Organized religion has constantly failed to understand that, and so, there fails to be a clear message when one priest preaches this message, and another preaches a contradictory one.
But that's just the case if you're straight-out Catholic. If you tend to cherrypick the stuff you believe in from Christianity, then it's probably alright. There's some stuff that Jesus says that I like.
i always believed that the bible, and other church stuff, are just guidelines to live by, but not really mandates of heaven to "obey or die". the thing is, i think people are taking christianity way out of context, and because of that, most people are either dogmatic hypocrites or pretenders as you say.
Speaking of taking Christianity way out of context. It turns out that the gospels are inconsistent. Harper Collins discusses in his book, Jesus Interrupted, how the crucifixion is rendered differently in all of the four gospels. In Mark (if I remember right), Christ is seen as confused and wondering why all of this is happening, and in the end, exclaims "My God, why have you forsaken me?" In Luke (again, if I remember right), he is calmer and tells God "Forgive them for they do not know what they are doing." I don't remember what's special with John (but I do remember that it's the newest among the four) and Matthew, but I do remember that he said that what Catholicism is doing is meshing the four together.
Here's an abstract from the book:
(http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780061173936/Jesus_Interrupted/index.aspx)
you might think my post is not related sorta, but it really is...and i'm sleepy so magulo yung statements ko haha.
vic, don't lose faith in the religion, if anything, consider yourself the real believer for knowing what's wrong and what to do about it. even if you say you don't believe anymore, if you look at it from my point of view, you've been living your life just as the bible would say you should, even if you're just being yourself. you know why?
cuz you care.
I find it hard believing the Bible. For starters, the Old Testament is just brimming with misogyny, sexism, violence and sex. There's also the probems with the gospels, as Collins pointed out. But don't worry, as I said, there are some words in the Bible that I believe in, but only some.
p.s. vic, masturbators can be good christians too. take it from me. ^_^ LOL I LIEK BUTTZ
I bet you do.
Endnotes
That's one of the inconsistencies in Catholic doctrine--that free will is a gift, but followers must follow God's plan. Therefore, free will is a gift that must be returned.*
But then again, what's even more distressing is the thought that free will is more trouble than we think. For starters, it's the reason why people actually stray from God's path. One answer is that, since men are created in the likeness of God, and since God is free, so is man. But then again, God isn't really free either because since God is all good, he can't do bad things. If you follow that logic, then you can infer that God is not all good because he has done bad things, such as the case with Noah. Most people would argue that he's doing it for the better of man. Then again, he advocated meaningless slaughter in some books in the Old Testament. (It's likely that nobody knows about this because this info has been repressed.)
Let's go back to Genesis. So, Adam and Eve were made with free will. What if they weren't created with free will? The problem with not creating them without it is that they wouldn't be like God, but then again, I've already pointed out that there are holes regarding likeness and free wil. The problem with giving them free will is that they are prone to deterring from God's will. The case with Eden and free will is probably the first case of being stuck between Charybdis and Scylla--or in modern terms, a rock and a hard place.**
maybe its God's idea for a good laugh?
One version of Faust ponders on the possibility that humans are God's play things.
well, i dunno, i don't think so. i think the reason we have free will is so that we could believe and understand God in our own way, so that our connection to him is that much more personal and important.
There's a problem with having a personal God, especially if you're Catholic. Catholicism is a religion that asserts absolute views, and if things are absolute, there is little, if not none at all, room for relative understanding. Organized religion has constantly failed to understand that, and so, there fails to be a clear message when one priest preaches this message, and another preaches a contradictory one.
But that's just the case if you're straight-out Catholic. If you tend to cherrypick the stuff you believe in from Christianity, then it's probably alright. There's some stuff that Jesus says that I like.
i always believed that the bible, and other church stuff, are just guidelines to live by, but not really mandates of heaven to "obey or die". the thing is, i think people are taking christianity way out of context, and because of that, most people are either dogmatic hypocrites or pretenders as you say.
Speaking of taking Christianity way out of context. It turns out that the gospels are inconsistent. Harper Collins discusses in his book, Jesus Interrupted, how the crucifixion is rendered differently in all of the four gospels. In Mark (if I remember right), Christ is seen as confused and wondering why all of this is happening, and in the end, exclaims "My God, why have you forsaken me?" In Luke (again, if I remember right), he is calmer and tells God "Forgive them for they do not know what they are doing." I don't remember what's special with John (but I do remember that it's the newest among the four) and Matthew, but I do remember that he said that what Catholicism is doing is meshing the four together.
Here's an abstract from the book:
(http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780061173936/Jesus_Interrupted/index.aspx)
- The authors of the New Testament have diverging views about who Jesus was and how salvation works
- The New Testament contains books that were forged in the names of the apostles by Christian writers who lived decades later
- Jesus, Paul, Matthew, and John all represented fundamentally different religions
- Established Christian doctrines—such as the suffering messiah, the divinity of Jesus, and the trinity—were the inventions of still later theologians
you might think my post is not related sorta, but it really is...and i'm sleepy so magulo yung statements ko haha.
vic, don't lose faith in the religion, if anything, consider yourself the real believer for knowing what's wrong and what to do about it. even if you say you don't believe anymore, if you look at it from my point of view, you've been living your life just as the bible would say you should, even if you're just being yourself. you know why?
cuz you care.
I find it hard believing the Bible. For starters, the Old Testament is just brimming with misogyny, sexism, violence and sex. There's also the probems with the gospels, as Collins pointed out. But don't worry, as I said, there are some words in the Bible that I believe in, but only some.
p.s. vic, masturbators can be good christians too. take it from me. ^_^ LOL I LIEK BUTTZ
I bet you do.
Endnotes
* COPYRIGHTED BY VIC BAUTISTA COPYRIGHTED BY VIC BAUTISTA COPYRIGHTED BY VIC BAUTISTA COPYRIGHTED BY VIC BAUTISTA COPYRIGHTED BY VIC BAUTISTA
** Again, COPYRIGHTED BY VIC BAUTISTA. As for Scylla and Charybdis, it's a fig of speech obtained from The Oddysey.
"LOL I LIEK BUTTZ"
ReplyDelete.....I never wrote that.... =|